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November 23rd, 2008 (03:08 pm)
current mood: fired up
current song: Divaville Lounge "The Greater War at Sea" special


I realize that the calm, cool, collected Wise Men who have deigned to become the new government will never, ever follow through on this, but:

Impeachment and conviction of federal officials is not limited to the time that they are in office. Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice, Card, Libby, Addington, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Mukasey, Paulson--they can all be impeached and convicted even after January 20. (Greenspan I'm not so sure of, but boy, he deserves it good and hard too.)

It's would be a huge gesture of tremendous symbolic import, yes, but it's not just possible, it's useful. Impeachment and conviction aren't just empty gestures.

Impeachment and conviction could open the path to federal criminal indictment. Executive privilege is sharply curtailed in impeachment cases, so this might be the only way to get certain types of information out of the smoldering ruins of the Bush White House. And practically, one of the penalties of conviction is that the convict is barred from holding federal office in the future. Several of those most at the heart of the Bush/Cheney criminal conspiracy are still young enough that they might aspire to return to public office, and they must be completely repudiated.

If Bush gives out pardons as he is expected to, impeachment is the only path we, the American people, will have to find out what has been done, by whom, and to hold them accountable.

(Of course, as a number of people have observed, if Bush pardons people for any theoretical war crimes, that opens them up explicitly to trial at the International Criminal Court, which can only step in once the malefactors' home nation has proven its unwillingness or inability to prosecute under its own laws. Impeachment would be like hanging a sign saying, "These are your targets.")

It will never happen, of course. I'm nearly certain that a major point of the wireless surveillance program was to gather blackmail data on members of Congress. (I mean, c'mon, do you think for an instant that Dick Cheney and Karl Rove, given unlimited computing power and the cooperation of almost every US telephony company, would pause even for three seconds before ordering the NSA to datamine the Senate?)



Posted by: Sarah Ovenall (sarah_ovenall)
Posted at: November 23rd, 2008 09:57 pm (UTC)

Hey thanks for listening! You know what they say, all the nice girls love a sailor.

Posted by: Kevin J. Maroney (womzilla)
Posted at: November 23rd, 2008 10:05 pm (UTC)

If I'm home on a Sunday afternoon, I always listen.

Posted by: Max (nppyinzer)
Posted at: November 23rd, 2008 11:39 pm (UTC)

I have the same slogan as that sign on a bumper sticker on my car. And I've decided that it's going to stay there, not only as a reminder that the current band of miscreants can still be punished, but as a reminder that it's just as patriotic to keep your eye on the politicians you agree with as the ones you don't.

Posted by: MIKE SHERWOOD (dmsherwood53)
Posted at: November 24th, 2008 12:10 am (UTC)
Nice but Yeah It'll never happen

Politicians look out for each other even more than science-fiction fans. DON'T set a precedent is their Asmovian 1st, 2nd & 3rd law.

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